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Senate Democrats Allow Lieberman to Go Unpunished

Posted by Staff, Think Progress at 10:16 AM on November 18, 2008.


Harry Reid: "I don’t apologize to anyone for what we did today."

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Today in a closed-door meeting, Senate Democrats voted 42-13 to allow Joe Lieberman (I-CT) to keep his chairmanship of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, despite his attacks on Barack Obama during the campaign season. Shortly afterward, Senate Democrats held a press conference during which they stood by Lieberman and surrounded him with their support. Some highlights of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s (D-NV) remarks:

– "We’re looking forward, we’re not looking back."

– "I understand anger. … I would defy anyone to be angrier than I was. But is this a time when we walk out of here and say, 'Boy, did we get even?'"

– "I am satisfied with what we did today. I feel good about what we did today. I don’t apologize to anyone for what we did today."

– "The question is, do I trust Senator Lieberman? The answer is yes, I trust Senator Lieberman."


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Puppet Reid
Posted by: PakiBoy on Nov 18, 2008 10:38 AM   
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can't bite the hand that feeds him and the the rest of the Repuglicrats.

AIPAC wins again...Yeah!

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» P.S. Posted by: blackie4aces
Politics - All politics
Posted by: ZPaul on Nov 18, 2008 11:20 AM   
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I think the "forgiving" thing is politics, to be able to say later publicly, "Who was generous and willing to not hold a grudge?" Politics is politics.....

Personally, I "trust" Liebermann to be what he is: a right-leaning "Democrat".

In politics, does anybody really say what they think? Or what they think is politically convenient for the moment?

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» RE: DaBear Posted by: blackie4aces
No surprise.
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Nov 18, 2008 11:22 AM   
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What, you thought they would somehow grow a spine?

It will be the same old song and dance... be elected as the majority, govern like the minority.

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» RE: No surprise. Posted by: Erin
Slime...the set up is complete
Posted by: Obijuan on Nov 18, 2008 11:32 AM   
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You are witnessing the beginning of the end of the USA. They are going to bring it down in less than a year.

They won't blame Bush for the economic situation, even if he presided on it...they won't save main street because the intention is to bring it down.

They won't tell you where the money is going...because it's going where you wouldn't want it to.

And now this. Take it as a slap in the face...that better than the shot in the back that it really is.

obi

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It should be pretty clear now
Posted by: weathered on Nov 18, 2008 11:35 AM   
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zio/neocons made a deal w/devil and he's dispatched Emmanuel to organize a rain parade.

Pull the plug on all MSM and flourish or stay stuck, drugged and forgotten in remarkable Lies.

Pls. remember the truth is very simple, its the lies that are ever so needy and require a great deal of heavy lifting.

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Underboss
Posted by: The Underboss on Nov 18, 2008 12:51 PM   
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Is this the "change we can believe in"?

The Underboss

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» RE: A SHORT CHANGE Posted by: americansheep
What a Joke!
Posted by: Kirc Zame on Nov 18, 2008 1:13 PM   
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The Democratic Senate continues with thier insipid spinlessness.

What next, Bush and Cheney in Obama's cabinet?

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F**k You Reid!!!
Posted by: ~Fiona~ on Nov 18, 2008 1:41 PM   
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"You Spineless Piece of Crap!"

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» RE: F**k You Reid!!! Posted by: blackie4aces
» RE: F**k You Reid!!! Posted by: mcyclemama
What can we expect?
Posted by: Frank J. Burris on Nov 18, 2008 2:07 PM   
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The Democrats have no incentive to behave as progressives when they're rewarded for ruling as Republicans. When a left-wing candidate outside of the Democratic party runs, they have to deal with half-wits calling them egomaniacs and bleating the tired drivel about throwing votes away.

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» RE: What can we expect? Posted by: JSquercia
» RE: What can we expect? Posted by: Quannah
» RE: What can we expect? Posted by: blackie4aces
» RE: What can we expect? Posted by: Quannah
proof positive
Posted by: schiffer on Nov 18, 2008 2:53 PM   
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that NOBODY in washington is held accountable.
they are ALL above the law.

why would criminals hold other criminals to account?
they wouldn't.

they are of the highest caste and we are all bilge pumpers.
we vote them in and they shit on us and we vote them in and they shit on us.

you can kiss those dreams of impeachment goodbye.
no one will ever pay for these crimes against humanity
(except for jessica lynch and other low levels)

have a nice day

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It's a one party system
Posted by: The Underboss on Nov 18, 2008 3:49 PM   
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This is a one party system - in Tanzania from the 60s to mid 90s there was only one party allowed.

America is the same. There's only one party - Republicrat.

The Underboss

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Ah....
Posted by: TheAntagonist on Nov 18, 2008 5:52 PM   
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...the Messiah is starting to show his true colors: CENTRIST!

It's the only way he can get anything done!

Hell, I'm just waiting for him to gracefully bow out of the promised middle class tax cuts soon. He'll also be hiring a bunch of lobbyists very soon.

It's the only way to get anything done in D.C.!

Until we throw Israel to the curb, Lieberman types will continue to drain and weaken the United States of America.

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Get Over It
Posted by: UnreasonableTeacher on Nov 18, 2008 7:58 PM   
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I realize what I am about to say will not be popular, but we liberals need to get over this one. This is not the end of the world. If anything, Lieberman keeping a chairman post will mean he is more likely to caucus with the Dems, and thus, more likely to have a fillabuster proof majority during votes. And believe me, I am no fan of Lieberman either.

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» RE: You are so right! Posted by: blackie4aces
Sickening and getting worse
Posted by: georgiaorwell on Nov 18, 2008 11:08 PM   
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What audacity - to 'hope' for 'change'. We have one party of rulers - the Republicrats: one arm APPEARS to favor social, economic change, while the other arm APPEARS to hold to the status quo. Either way, the middle class is definitely going to be screwed and we were idealists to think otherwise.

As a progressive, I really supported Obama and wanted to believe in him, but I'm getting this horrifying picture of his being a 'tool' for our one Party system. Yes, he can move people to tears with his speeches and promise change, but what we are seeing in his appointments and what he is promoting with Congress tells me otherwise. When he proposes McCain for secretary of Defense, it will be official: we'll know we've been had. And allowing Lieberman to keep his chairmanship is such blasphemy that it merely affirms my new suspicions that this is definitely a One Party system. They really have pulled it off, folks. We've been bamboozled. For those who say but Obama hasn't even gotten into office yet, as Jolsen said, "You ain't seen nothing yet."

The bailout analysis by Naomi Klein pretty much spells out the sheer corruption that exists in Washington and I'm afraid it's not just the Bush administration. Hell, they're all in cahoots. To also say the environment might reach its goals in, say, 2050 is pathetic.

This seriously makes Ralph Nader look like a saint. He may not be everyone's cup of tea, but he has always been for the people.

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Change? Hope? Crap is more like it!
Posted by: GriGri on Nov 19, 2008 1:36 AM   
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President-elect Obama hasn't even taken the Oath of Office and already the Democrats are caving in at the first opportunity to take a stand for what is right instead of The Right. Many will say that Obama had nothing to do with this. He has officially resigned as a US Senator. There should be a return to the balance of powers. Blah. Blah. Blah.

What about all the canvassing, phone-banking, rallying, etc., that I and others did to help Senator Obama win and to move both houses of Congress toward super-majorities? Are we going to act like the Republicans have over the past eight years and pretend we don't remember all the promises that were made? Promises to hold those who have harmed our nation, both domestically and internationally, accountable. Promises to change the business-as-usual, good-ole-boy politics that have brought our nation to the brink of economic collapse. Promises that the little gal can once again hold her head up with pride knowing that wealth and power no longer equals immunity from responsibility.

The exuberance I felt following the November election has given way to a sense of dread. Maybe when enough of us have seen the consequences of this most recent betrayal by those who supposedly spoke for us, we will return to collective activism and take back our country.

The moment I hear President Obama state that we are looking to the future and will not be wasting precious time, energy, resources, and money investigating those who have used the Constitution to wipe their asses since January 20, 2001, I will work tirelessly to find a candidate of conscience, conviction, and courage for the 2012 election as well as every House and Senate race.

There is the audacity of my hope!

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Reid and LIE-berman
Posted by: blackjack on Nov 19, 2008 1:50 AM   
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Reid and LIE-berman just took a DUMP in every real DEMOCRATS moring CEREAL and the SOMETIMES DEMOCRATS told us that it was FRESH FRUIT. So what are We the People who helped the Democrats win this Election year goimg to do about it? Until we act together to rid the DEMOCRATIC PARTY of the SOME TIME DEMOCRATS, just shut up and think that it is FRESH FRUIT.

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The Catbird Seat
Posted by: reinaldok on Nov 19, 2008 2:00 AM   
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Many of us still remember the great baseball announcer, Red Barber. He surely would have said that Joe Lieberman is in the CATBIRD SEAT.(A favorite expression of Red's) The Demos sorely need his senate vote. They are struggling for that vote number sixty. Without a friendly Lieberman, there is absolutely no chance. Old Joe is in a win-win postion. Whatever he does, he just cannot lose. Do we really want him on the other side?

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» RE: The Catbird Seat Posted by: georgiaorwell
Lieberman the Snakeman
Posted by: gladmueth on Nov 19, 2008 3:58 AM   
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Well, now they have a nice snake to sleep with and they invited him into the tent, so they shouldn't be surprised next time they get bitten. I'm so alarmed by our opportunity to clean house with this one and their lack of courage. Lieberman stinks.

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"We’re looking forward, we’re not looking back."
Posted by: xvictor on Nov 19, 2008 5:13 AM   
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Odd, isn't that what the Bushies said eight years ago? Look at us now.

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SNAKE IN THE GRASS
Posted by: shd1230 on Nov 19, 2008 5:48 AM   
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WHY SHOULD THE DEMOCRATS ALLOW HIM ANYTHING AFTER HIS "CONJOINED TWIN" ACT WITH JOHN MCCAIN. OBVIOUSLY HE THOUGHT HE WAS IN LINE FOR VP AND THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN; EVEN IF IT HAD HE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ELECTED. I THOUGHT HE WAS A TERRIBLE CHOICE FOR KERRY. HE IS A RIDICULOUS SELF-SERVING TRAITROUS LITTLE MAN AND SHOULD BE OUSTED FROM ALL CHAIRMANSHIPS SINCE HE IS NOT A DEMOCRAT!

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Reid
Posted by: gathaiga on Nov 19, 2008 6:30 AM   
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Reid and company?? Once again proving they are nutless shitheads. No surprises here.

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Rage
Posted by: westomoon on Nov 19, 2008 6:29 AM   
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Watching Reid assert that he had nothing to apologize for, and then Liebermann arrogantly blubber-mouth on about a new day, I was suddenly angrier than I have ever been in my life.

Impeachment of an openly lawless administration -- too hard. Reining in the President's assaults on the Constitution -- too hard (so they made them retroactively legal). Enforcing a Congressional subpoena -- too hard. Conducting actual oversight of Executive Branch operations -- too hard. Using the Senate rules to stand up to the neocons when they were in the majority -- too hard. Overcoming wholesale neocon obstructionism in the Senate once the Ds had the majority -- too hard.

BUT... Tidying their own nest, taking the chance to remove a p*ss-poor performer from one of the most critical Committees in the Senate, after he's had two years to demonstrate that he was the wrong man for the job? Expressing disapproval of a Senator who is serving this term after being rejected by the voters of his own State's Party; who spent months promulgating inflammatory lies, not only about the Democratic Presidential candidate but also about his Democratic Senate colleagues running for office; who glued himself to the sleazy R candidate like a jailhouse ho; and who has voted with the neocons on every issue that has brought us to our current boiling, putrescent national mess? Delivering a light slap on the hand, conducting a little internal housekeeping, allowing one little crumb of accountability for the actions of a public figure? Even that was too hard for this bunch of spineless, mealy-mouthed appeasers.

I'm a middle-class person, soft-spoken and law-abiding. But I'm starting to understand what drives people to simply get out in the street and riot. If I didn't live in the middle of the Great North Woods, where there's no one to see me rage but the trees, the owls, and the cougars, I'm not sure I wouldn't have been figuring out how to siphon gas out of my tank for a molotov cocktail Tuesday evening.

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» RE: Rage Posted by: blackie4aces
» Rational and irrational acts Posted by: westomoon
Yea, Harry Reid, the Worst Majority Leader of My Time on This Planet
Posted by: blackie4aces on Nov 19, 2008 6:51 AM   
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Yea, Harry, you may trust lieberman, but now half your constituency or more, including myself, doesn't trust you.

Good trade. Go to bed with a snake and one inevitably gets bitten. The Democrats will pay for this, though I, at this point, could care less. You'd have thought they had already paid enough. That the American people will pay for it, now that's the real issue, isn't it.

The previous excuse for the gutlessness of the Democrats in the Senate was lack of a majority. Then it was the lack of a large majority. Now that they have a large majority, the excuse seemingly has become "one vote." I wonder what the next one will be?

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Absolutely reprehensible and utterly irresponsible
Posted by: DaBear on Nov 19, 2008 7:37 AM   
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This is just the beginning of the whitewash... Bush/Cheney, et al. will never see a courtroom let alone an indictment as long as the Dims are in charge.

God damn the owning-class and their vapid beautiful minds. This is criminal. Reid has no business in leadership.

No justice, no peace.

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Democrats Capitulate to the "Powers that Be"
Posted by: 911FalseFlag on Nov 19, 2008 7:53 AM   
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Just like Al Gore, after fighting against the election being stolen by computer fraud and voter suppression, capitulated on the floor of the United States Senate by stopping anyone from objecting to the Certification of the Florida electoral College vote.

Just like Clinton stopped any investigation of George HW Bush and his involvement in the Iran-Contra affair and his involvement in the assassination of JFK and the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan.

Just like John Kerry capitulated the day after the election knowing full well that Bush stole the election by voter suppression and computer fraud in many of the battleground states. Of course, he explained his concession in words that the everyday uninformed simplistic Americans would understand "I don't want to seem like a sore loser".

Just like Gerald Ford struck a deal with Richard Nixon which called for his resignation instead of impeachment hearings. In this way, the real reason for the Watergate burglary would be kept secret and the complicit Congress would continue to look good. The real reason was that there was evidence, including photographic evidence, placing E. Howard Hunt in Dealey Square on the day JFK was killed. If you are too young to remember, E. Howard Hunt was one of the Watergate burglars. He recently died. Before he died, he made an audiotape in which he clearly states that JFK assassination was a conspiracy of the CIA including Lyndon Baines Johnson. Of course, the mainstream media did not pick up on this earth shattering news.

Just like Obama will not investigate Bush and/or Cheney for all of the felonies, war crimes, treason including the planning and orchestration of 9/11. He will just chalk it up to "moving on for the good of the country".

The good of the country requires the investigation and prosecution of all of these criminals starting with George H.W. Bush and moving forward.

Go to www.dot911insidejob.net for many articles and videos on these topics and many others.

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The Progressive Cause
Posted by: blackie4aces on Nov 19, 2008 8:22 AM   
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I think it should be clear now that without a third and possibly a fourth political party in this country the American political system is doomed to cronyism, corruption, ineptitude, and the complete lack of any ability to reform. The overwhelming vote to retain Joe Lieberman whose positions have not an iota of resemblance to a progressive agenda demonstrates that the Democratic Party is not a progressive party.

In view of the "candidate of change" seeming proclivity to appoint the Clinton Adminsistration as his own "new" Administration in combination with the Lieberman vote, it should be very, very clear that very, very little will actually change. There will be no change to its Israeli policy, one of the single most dangerous and deleterious positions of the past two administrations. Rahm Emmanuel's appointment and the offer of State to Hillary Clinton pretty well clinch that. About the only thing Obama and Clinton agreed on in the foreign policy arena was unconditional U.S. support of Israel. While cheering on the invasion of Iraq by the U.S., what did Emmanuel do? Why he went off to Israel to become a civilian volunteer in the Israeli Army, of course. Hmmm? I guess with his familial roots to Irgun, the Israeli freedom fighters or terrorists depending on personal bias, he couldn't help himself.

I have no doubt that Lieberman, who was able to hold his vote hostage to the Committee Chair, he will also do the same on any and all issues regarding Middle East policy. That one vote sure has acquired a lot of power. Or been granted the power by the idiots in the Senate.

Or maybe not. Maybe Lieberman isn't very repugnant to them. Now that's a scary thought.

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The more things (supposedly) change, the more they stay the same?
Posted by: monkeywrench on Nov 19, 2008 8:43 AM   
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Sometimes I believe that a senator couldn't even lose a committee chairmanship, let alone his office, if he was caught buggering a congressional page on the steps of the capitol building.

That being said, good ol' Joe will not suffer one sanction for verbally doing nearly the same to Obama – who, inexplicably, agrees with Harry Reid's foolish decision. Once again, the Dems roll over and seek to "bury the hatchet." Republicans plan to "bury the hatchet" as well – firmly in congressional Democrats' empty skulls.

I was euphoric over Obama's win; but this sort of foolish "business-as-usual" over at the frat house known as congress is reactivating the uncomfortable churning in the pit of my stomach.

Things will undoubtedly be better under Obama than under Bush; but if we are to survive, we will need much more: a rapid change to a sustainable economy, a rapid return to honoring our Constitution, and a rapid shift to protecting Earth's environment. This will require broad, innovative thinking outside the box that we've been trapped in for so long, not just baby steps (and in Lieberman's case, temper tantrums) by "the usual suspects."

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Keeping our Democratic Leaders Closest
Posted by: jimswanson on Nov 19, 2008 10:44 AM   
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James A. Swanson, Los Altos, CA
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I’m a progressive who could not warm up to Joe Lieberman even if we were cremated together.

However, it’s now time to lick our wounds, remember, and “move on” to the next battle.

In “moving on,” we must stay engaged, take names, kick butt, and never give up.

Electing Obama was the easy part. The real work begins today … and again tomorrow … and again every day thereafter. Let’s redouble our efforts.

Senate Democrats who genuflected before Lieberman cannot be counted on.

Progressive transformation of our nation must be driven from the grassroots up, not from the “top down” by business-as-usual career politicians.

GOP Neanderthals in the Senate are “reliable” because we know what to expect from them. As for our Democratic leaders, we trust them at our peril.

We must keep our friends close, our enemy closer, and our Democratic leaders closest.

Jim Swanson, Los Altos, CA
www.bushleagueofnations.com

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Lieberman - 2000 versus Now
Posted by: letrightbedone on Nov 19, 2008 2:46 PM   
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Back then I enjoyed watching Joe Lieberman as v.p. nominee, liked his seeming amiability, his easily recognized voice. But over the years I've learned that He didn't change that much, we just didn't know him. His state record in Ct. is not the greatest, and he had some position of power then. For present day diversion, I fantasize the Senate putting on a performance of 'David Copperfield.' Lieberman would be the perfect Uriah Heap :) .

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Jeanna
Posted by: jeanna on Nov 19, 2008 3:15 PM   
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The question is do we trust Harry Reid and his jolly centrists. The answer is NO!

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Why do We even try to express our dismay?
Posted by: common intelligence on Nov 20, 2008 11:01 AM   
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It's all fun to talk and debate the possiblities, but it is so very sad when we see these bastards continues guilty actions take place throughout the last eight years all are voices have gone spoke on deaf ears.

It's so sad that the congress, it's very self, has been complicent in all the happenings too. So their asses are on the chopping block too. Not hardly! With Nancy Pelosi and Reid at the reins and now Joe Leiberman being given acceptable credibility by Obama, I have the gravest doubts anything will happen in the application of justice.

It's like after 911 no one was has ever been brought to answer for failures in any national securities posts. But of course good (their) good reason.As well, now in the midst of the economy going down the shit whole, much blame is being fingered but no one is being thrown in the clinker. The whole system is corrupt to the core and no one is being made accountable for anything.

This page in the theater of The executive, legislative and judicial branches intertwined collusion in corruption and it makes the likelyhood of more that a slap on the hand and some inconsiquential humility, the best we can hope for.

The MSM has been powerfully in charge of slashing the sails, deflating and minimizing any momentum of public awareness of truth or concern of the veryidea of democracy a joke. All along this sad sad nightmare this country has been in lock-step by the Bush / neocon machine.
So, now when we weight the history of accountability being made a part of the equation, we can see by deductive reason, unless the crafty Bush legal team screws up, or "Our" representative find a voice of devine power*, accounatbility is "off the table" too.
Because we the people have given away our power to a coup'e'tate without a pair of gloves to even fight.
(*Congressmen Wexler and Kucinich are our only voices. Most others that were strong have lost their schutspah.)

Ergo, "this whole thing is just a dramatic sad comedy of errors."
I can only hope for justice, but we know it won't happen in this country.
But I won't stop voicing myself. Bitching is the last act of defiance.

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